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	<description>Beyond Feminism -- Back to Reality!</description>
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		<title>Comment on 25th Anniversary Edition Available! by Mary Pride</title>
		<link>http://thewayhome.org/2011/05/25th-anniversary-edition-available/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Pride</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 21:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, according to the current Amazon discount, if you have Amazon Prime you might do better ordering in bulk directly from Amazon. If it&#039;s less than $8.30/book from them, including shipping, go for it! As a bonus, this might help The Way Home: 25th Anniversary Edition move up in the Amazon rankings. :)

If you want a REALLY large quantity (100 or more at a time), contact me via our site&#039; Contact form that I mentioned above, and I&#039;ll see what I can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, according to the current Amazon discount, if you have Amazon Prime you might do better ordering in bulk directly from Amazon. If it&#8217;s less than $8.30/book from them, including shipping, go for it! As a bonus, this might help The Way Home: 25th Anniversary Edition move up in the Amazon rankings. <img src='http://thewayhome.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If you want a REALLY large quantity (100 or more at a time), contact me via our site&#8217; Contact form that I mentioned above, and I&#8217;ll see what I can do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 25th Anniversary Edition Available! by Mary Pride</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Pride</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 21:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For orders of 10 or more, $7.50 each plus 80¢/book shipping (total of $8.30/book). Retail price is $12.99. We print through CreateSpace, so you simply need to get us the check or a credit card to charge and give us the shipping address. You can message me on Facebook - my page is https://www.facebook.com/mary.pride - or email through our website&#039;s Contact form here: http://www.home-school.com/contact.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For orders of 10 or more, $7.50 each plus 80¢/book shipping (total of $8.30/book). Retail price is $12.99. We print through CreateSpace, so you simply need to get us the check or a credit card to charge and give us the shipping address. You can message me on Facebook &#8211; my page is <a href="https://www.facebook.com/mary.pride" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/mary.pride</a> &#8211; or email through our website&#8217;s Contact form here: <a href="http://www.home-school.com/contact.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.home-school.com/contact.php</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on 25th Anniversary Edition Available! by NANCY CAMPBELL</title>
		<link>http://thewayhome.org/2011/05/25th-anniversary-edition-available/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>NANCY CAMPBELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 20:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to order the new edition of THE WAY HOME in  bulk to have available through our magazine, Above Rubies.

Can you please give me pricing for bulk orders. I need to know urgently.

Thanks, Nancy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to order the new edition of THE WAY HOME in  bulk to have available through our magazine, Above Rubies.</p>
<p>Can you please give me pricing for bulk orders. I need to know urgently.</p>
<p>Thanks, Nancy</p>
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		<title>Comment on Nobody Wants to Walk the Streets by BDB</title>
		<link>http://thewayhome.org/2011/08/nobody-wants-to-walk-the-streets/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>BDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2011 01:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting to see how similar these situations are regardless of where in the world they happen.  It sounds very similar to a slum in Cambodia that a pastor walked us through.  Similar issues with substance addiction and limited access to education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting to see how similar these situations are regardless of where in the world they happen.  It sounds very similar to a slum in Cambodia that a pastor walked us through.  Similar issues with substance addiction and limited access to education.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Women &#8220;Choose&#8221; to Harm Women by sarah</title>
		<link>http://thewayhome.org/2011/06/women-choose-to-harm-women/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 23:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I reiterate my point, which is the irony of this book&#039;s author saying that feminists&#039; worst fear is the banning of abortion -- rather than all these things that you mention. We all should be fighting these terrible ills. In fact, I am about to type a new post that touches on these themes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reiterate my point, which is the irony of this book&#8217;s author saying that feminists&#8217; worst fear is the banning of abortion &#8212; rather than all these things that you mention. We all should be fighting these terrible ills. In fact, I am about to type a new post that touches on these themes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Women &#8220;Choose&#8221; to Harm Women by SM</title>
		<link>http://thewayhome.org/2011/06/women-choose-to-harm-women/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>SM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 22:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“China’s Cultural Revolution under Mao Zedong from 1958 to 1962 killed at least 45 million. World War II reported 55 million casualties worldwide. I am saddened beyond belief to compare these numbers to 163 million aborted baby girls. And that’s not even counting the ones killed in equal proportion to the aborted baby boys. “

You think that this is the American “feminists” fault? This is a result of how they treat women, which is less than men, AKA worthless.

Do you really think that a country that values men way more than women care even a little bit about what a bunch of fanatical, male-dominating, angry, American women think or believe?? think about it!

Lets first change the laws on how women are treated in country’s like this, lets first get them to full citizen status and maybe, just maybe, there will be less aborted girls and boys.

The problem is not American feminism, it’s the laws and the culture of those country’s.

“In a culture that idolizes sons and dreads the birth of a daughter, to be born female comes perilously close to being born less than human,” the Indian government conceded in a recent report by its Department of Women and Child Development. “

“From South America to South Asia, women are often subjected to a lifetime of discrimination with little or no hope of relief. As children, they are fed less, denied education and refused hospitalization. As teen-agers, many are forced into marriage, sometimes bought and sold for prostitution and slave labor. As wives and mothers, they are treated little better than farmhands and baby machines. Should they outlive their husbands, they frequently are denied inheritance, banished from their homes and forced to live as beggars on the streets.
While the forms of discrimination vary tremendously among regions, ethnic groups and age levels in the developing world, Shahla Zia, an attorney and women’s activist in Islamabad, Pakistan, said there is a unifying theme: “Overall, there is a social and cultural attitude where women are inferior — and discrimination tends to start at birth.”
A woman’s greatest challenge is an elemental one: simply surviving through a normal life cycle. In South Asia and China, the perils begin at birth, with the threat of infanticide. “
“In urban areas, easier access to modern medical technology enables women to act before birth. Through amniocentesis, women can learn the sex of a fetus and undergo sex-selective abortions. At one clinic in Bombay, of 8,000 abortions performed after amniocentesis, 7,999 were of female fetuses, according to a recent report by the Indian government.
Female infanticide and sex-selective abortion are not unique to India. Social workers in other South Asian states believe that some communities also condone the practice.
The root problems, according to village women, sociologists and other experts, are cultural and economic. In India, a young woman is regarded as a temporary member of her natural family and a drain on its wealth. Her parents are considered caretakers whose main responsibility is to deliver a chaste daughter, along with a sizable dowry, to her husband’s family.
“They say bringing up a girl is like watering a neighbor’s plant,” said R. Venkatachalam, director of the Community Services Guild of Madras. “From birth to death, the expenditure is there.” The dowry, he said, often wipes out a family’s life savings but is necessary to arrange a proper marriage and maintain the honor of the bride’s family.
After giving birth to a daughter, village women “immediately start thinking, `Do we have the money to support her through life?’ and if they don’t, they kill her,” according to Vasanthai, 20, the mother of an 18-month- old girl and a resident of the village where Rani lives. “You definitely do it after two or three daughters. Why would you want more?”
Few activists or government officials in India see female infanticide as a law-and-order issue, viewing it instead as a social problem that should be eradicated through better education, family planning and job programs. Police officials say few cases are reported and witnesses seldom cooperate. “

“Boys are generally breast-fed longer. In many cultures, women and girls eat leftovers after the men and boys have finished their meals. “

“Women are often hospitalized only when they have reached a critical stage of illness, which is one reason so many mothers die in childbirth. Female children often are not hospitalized at all. A 1990 study of patient records at Islamabad Children’s Hospital in Pakistan found that 71 percent of the babies admitted under age 2 were boys. For all age groups, twice as many boys as girls were admitted to the hospital’s surgery, pediatric intensive care and diarrhea units. Mary Okumu, an official with the African Medical and Research Foundation in Nairobi, said that when a worker in drought-ravaged northern Kenya asked why only boys were lined up at a clinic, the worker was told that in times of drought, many families let their daughters die. “
-JOHN WARD ANDERSON AND MOLLY MOORE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“China’s Cultural Revolution under Mao Zedong from 1958 to 1962 killed at least 45 million. World War II reported 55 million casualties worldwide. I am saddened beyond belief to compare these numbers to 163 million aborted baby girls. And that’s not even counting the ones killed in equal proportion to the aborted baby boys. “</p>
<p>You think that this is the American “feminists” fault? This is a result of how they treat women, which is less than men, AKA worthless.</p>
<p>Do you really think that a country that values men way more than women care even a little bit about what a bunch of fanatical, male-dominating, angry, American women think or believe?? think about it!</p>
<p>Lets first change the laws on how women are treated in country’s like this, lets first get them to full citizen status and maybe, just maybe, there will be less aborted girls and boys.</p>
<p>The problem is not American feminism, it’s the laws and the culture of those country’s.</p>
<p>“In a culture that idolizes sons and dreads the birth of a daughter, to be born female comes perilously close to being born less than human,” the Indian government conceded in a recent report by its Department of Women and Child Development. “</p>
<p>“From South America to South Asia, women are often subjected to a lifetime of discrimination with little or no hope of relief. As children, they are fed less, denied education and refused hospitalization. As teen-agers, many are forced into marriage, sometimes bought and sold for prostitution and slave labor. As wives and mothers, they are treated little better than farmhands and baby machines. Should they outlive their husbands, they frequently are denied inheritance, banished from their homes and forced to live as beggars on the streets.<br />
While the forms of discrimination vary tremendously among regions, ethnic groups and age levels in the developing world, Shahla Zia, an attorney and women’s activist in Islamabad, Pakistan, said there is a unifying theme: “Overall, there is a social and cultural attitude where women are inferior — and discrimination tends to start at birth.”<br />
A woman’s greatest challenge is an elemental one: simply surviving through a normal life cycle. In South Asia and China, the perils begin at birth, with the threat of infanticide. “<br />
“In urban areas, easier access to modern medical technology enables women to act before birth. Through amniocentesis, women can learn the sex of a fetus and undergo sex-selective abortions. At one clinic in Bombay, of 8,000 abortions performed after amniocentesis, 7,999 were of female fetuses, according to a recent report by the Indian government.<br />
Female infanticide and sex-selective abortion are not unique to India. Social workers in other South Asian states believe that some communities also condone the practice.<br />
The root problems, according to village women, sociologists and other experts, are cultural and economic. In India, a young woman is regarded as a temporary member of her natural family and a drain on its wealth. Her parents are considered caretakers whose main responsibility is to deliver a chaste daughter, along with a sizable dowry, to her husband’s family.<br />
“They say bringing up a girl is like watering a neighbor’s plant,” said R. Venkatachalam, director of the Community Services Guild of Madras. “From birth to death, the expenditure is there.” The dowry, he said, often wipes out a family’s life savings but is necessary to arrange a proper marriage and maintain the honor of the bride’s family.<br />
After giving birth to a daughter, village women “immediately start thinking, `Do we have the money to support her through life?’ and if they don’t, they kill her,” according to Vasanthai, 20, the mother of an 18-month- old girl and a resident of the village where Rani lives. “You definitely do it after two or three daughters. Why would you want more?”<br />
Few activists or government officials in India see female infanticide as a law-and-order issue, viewing it instead as a social problem that should be eradicated through better education, family planning and job programs. Police officials say few cases are reported and witnesses seldom cooperate. “</p>
<p>“Boys are generally breast-fed longer. In many cultures, women and girls eat leftovers after the men and boys have finished their meals. “</p>
<p>“Women are often hospitalized only when they have reached a critical stage of illness, which is one reason so many mothers die in childbirth. Female children often are not hospitalized at all. A 1990 study of patient records at Islamabad Children’s Hospital in Pakistan found that 71 percent of the babies admitted under age 2 were boys. For all age groups, twice as many boys as girls were admitted to the hospital’s surgery, pediatric intensive care and diarrhea units. Mary Okumu, an official with the African Medical and Research Foundation in Nairobi, said that when a worker in drought-ravaged northern Kenya asked why only boys were lined up at a clinic, the worker was told that in times of drought, many families let their daughters die. “<br />
-JOHN WARD ANDERSON AND MOLLY MOORE</p>
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		<title>Comment on If Saudi Arabia Was Christian . . . by ecks why</title>
		<link>http://thewayhome.org/2011/06/if-saudi-arabia-was-christian/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>ecks why</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 00:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>allah approved misogyny is one of many severe problems with islam which is dangerous no matter how it is packaged...

the twin fogs of political correctness &amp; ignorance must be dispersed before western society better understands this menace. even a brief review of islamic theology &amp; history quickly exposes the deadly roots of this evil ideology.

see the links in the pdf version below for more accurate info about islam
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islam is a horrible ideology for human rights

5 key things about islam 

1. mythical beliefs - all religions have these (faith) because its part of being a religion: having beliefs without proof until after the believer dies. the problem is people will believe almost anything.

2. totalitarianism - islam has no seperation of church and state: sharia law governs all.  there is no free will in islam: only submission to the will of allah as conveniently determined by the imams who spew vapors to feather their own nests. there are no moderate muslims: they all support sharia law.

3. violence - islam leads the pack of all religions in violent tenets for their ideology &amp; history: having eternal canonical imperatives for supremacy at all costs and calling for violence &amp; intimidation as basic tools to achieve these goals.

4. dishonesty - only islam has dishonesty as a fundamental tenet: this stems from allah speaking to mohamhead &amp; abrogation in the koran which is used to explain how mo&#039;s peaceful early life was superseded by his warlord role later.

5. misogyny - present day islam is still rooted in 8th century social ethics: treating females as property of men good only for children, severely limiting their activities, dressing them in shower curtains and worse.

conclusions ??

there really are NO redeeming qualities for this muddled pile of propaganda.

islam is just another fascist totalitarian ideology used by power hungry fanatics on yet another quest for worldwide domination and includes all the usual human rights abuses &amp; suppression of freedoms.

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1 page pdf version - do file/download 6kb viewer doesn&#039;t show fonts well, has better fonts header footer links, great for emailing printing etc
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>allah approved misogyny is one of many severe problems with islam which is dangerous no matter how it is packaged&#8230;</p>
<p>the twin fogs of political correctness &amp; ignorance must be dispersed before western society better understands this menace. even a brief review of islamic theology &amp; history quickly exposes the deadly roots of this evil ideology.</p>
<p>see the links in the pdf version below for more accurate info about islam<br />
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<p>islam is a horrible ideology for human rights</p>
<p>5 key things about islam </p>
<p>1. mythical beliefs &#8211; all religions have these (faith) because its part of being a religion: having beliefs without proof until after the believer dies. the problem is people will believe almost anything.</p>
<p>2. totalitarianism &#8211; islam has no seperation of church and state: sharia law governs all.  there is no free will in islam: only submission to the will of allah as conveniently determined by the imams who spew vapors to feather their own nests. there are no moderate muslims: they all support sharia law.</p>
<p>3. violence &#8211; islam leads the pack of all religions in violent tenets for their ideology &amp; history: having eternal canonical imperatives for supremacy at all costs and calling for violence &amp; intimidation as basic tools to achieve these goals.</p>
<p>4. dishonesty &#8211; only islam has dishonesty as a fundamental tenet: this stems from allah speaking to mohamhead &amp; abrogation in the koran which is used to explain how mo&#8217;s peaceful early life was superseded by his warlord role later.</p>
<p>5. misogyny &#8211; present day islam is still rooted in 8th century social ethics: treating females as property of men good only for children, severely limiting their activities, dressing them in shower curtains and worse.</p>
<p>conclusions ??</p>
<p>there really are NO redeeming qualities for this muddled pile of propaganda.</p>
<p>islam is just another fascist totalitarian ideology used by power hungry fanatics on yet another quest for worldwide domination and includes all the usual human rights abuses &amp; suppression of freedoms.</p>
<p>graphics version<br />
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<p>1 page pdf version &#8211; do file/download 6kb viewer doesn&#8217;t show fonts well, has better fonts header footer links, great for emailing printing etc<br />
<a href="http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&#038;pid=explorer&#038;chrome=true&#038;srcid=0B_UyNP-72AVKYWNiNTFlYTEtMTA1ZC00YjhiLTljMDUtMDhhNDE0NDMzNmYz" rel="nofollow">http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&#038;pid=explorer&#038;chrome=true&#038;srcid=0B_UyNP-72AVKYWNiNTFlYTEtMTA1ZC00YjhiLTljMDUtMDhhNDE0NDMzNmYz</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Great Husbands Wanted for Christian Girls by Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 16:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a young, single Christian man, I find Paul&#039;s comment about &#039;big signs&#039; describes well how I&#039;ve thought of women! My thinking tendend to follow the logic that for someone to go to the trouble of getting a degree in accounting (for example), It means that they intend to pursue a career in accounting. On the surface, it seems quite a straightforward way of thinking. But it is not so simple in practice. My own mother went to teacher&#039;s college and worked as a teacher, but later (after marrying Dad) became a homeschooling SAHM (something for which I am greatly in her debt). My eldest sister, now married with two children, has a degree in criminology and criminal justice, and is determined to be a homeschooling SAHM. 
 It is a more recent realization I&#039;ve had that a degree does not mean that a girl is a card carrying, power-hungry feminist. I think Paul is right in saying that women should make known what they think. Subtlety is very much lost on the likes of me.

  Mrs Stokes also makes a cutting comment regarding singleness, It&#039;s not a hard way to live as a twenty-something! There are practical freedoms afforded a single man that my married christian brothers don&#039;t have. I don&#039;t have to provide for anyone (not counting contributions to charities and gospel work), I can volunteer much of my time and unlike those with young babies I have fair chances of an uninterrupted night&#039;s sleep!

That being said, In the beginning, amongst all the Good things that God had made, it was not good for the Man to be alone. There is sometimes, I think, a sense of &quot;not good&quot; is to be felt in singleness. I want to marry and raise a family (Lord willing!), but I do worry about my ability to provide - in fact this very worry keeps most of my amorous notions in check - As a tertiary music student, fiscal affluence does not feature prominently in my future prospects, nevertheless, see above comment about the Lord willing things!. As a &#039;clueless clod&#039;, however.... see earlier comment regarding subtlety.

I reckon Miss Pride makes the best comment about what she wants men to pursue! Whom God intends for me to marry (if at all) is largely irrelevant next to what I &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; know about what he intends for me, which is to follow him all the days of my life. Being here on earth is a temporary arrangement! 

To finish, I&#039;ll share my latest thought on Psalm 127, verse 1: &quot;Unless the LORD builds the house, the builders labor in vain. Unless the LORD watches over the city, the guards stand watch in vain.&quot;

 I guess I won&#039;t find out if the Lord will build me a marriage unless I start laying bricks!

- Jared Killey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a young, single Christian man, I find Paul&#8217;s comment about &#8216;big signs&#8217; describes well how I&#8217;ve thought of women! My thinking tendend to follow the logic that for someone to go to the trouble of getting a degree in accounting (for example), It means that they intend to pursue a career in accounting. On the surface, it seems quite a straightforward way of thinking. But it is not so simple in practice. My own mother went to teacher&#8217;s college and worked as a teacher, but later (after marrying Dad) became a homeschooling SAHM (something for which I am greatly in her debt). My eldest sister, now married with two children, has a degree in criminology and criminal justice, and is determined to be a homeschooling SAHM.<br />
 It is a more recent realization I&#8217;ve had that a degree does not mean that a girl is a card carrying, power-hungry feminist. I think Paul is right in saying that women should make known what they think. Subtlety is very much lost on the likes of me.</p>
<p>  Mrs Stokes also makes a cutting comment regarding singleness, It&#8217;s not a hard way to live as a twenty-something! There are practical freedoms afforded a single man that my married christian brothers don&#8217;t have. I don&#8217;t have to provide for anyone (not counting contributions to charities and gospel work), I can volunteer much of my time and unlike those with young babies I have fair chances of an uninterrupted night&#8217;s sleep!</p>
<p>That being said, In the beginning, amongst all the Good things that God had made, it was not good for the Man to be alone. There is sometimes, I think, a sense of &#8220;not good&#8221; is to be felt in singleness. I want to marry and raise a family (Lord willing!), but I do worry about my ability to provide &#8211; in fact this very worry keeps most of my amorous notions in check &#8211; As a tertiary music student, fiscal affluence does not feature prominently in my future prospects, nevertheless, see above comment about the Lord willing things!. As a &#8216;clueless clod&#8217;, however&#8230;. see earlier comment regarding subtlety.</p>
<p>I reckon Miss Pride makes the best comment about what she wants men to pursue! Whom God intends for me to marry (if at all) is largely irrelevant next to what I <i>do</i> know about what he intends for me, which is to follow him all the days of my life. Being here on earth is a temporary arrangement! </p>
<p>To finish, I&#8217;ll share my latest thought on Psalm 127, verse 1: &#8220;Unless the LORD builds the house, the builders labor in vain. Unless the LORD watches over the city, the guards stand watch in vain.&#8221;</p>
<p> I guess I won&#8217;t find out if the Lord will build me a marriage unless I start laying bricks!</p>
<p>- Jared Killey</p>
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		<title>Comment on Women &#8220;Choose&#8221; to Harm Women by Mary Pride</title>
		<link>http://thewayhome.org/2011/06/women-choose-to-harm-women/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Pride</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe feminists have painted themselves into a corner with this one. 

The cornerstone of modern feminism (as opposed to the suffragettes and Susan B. Anthony) has been &quot;a woman&#039;s right to choose&quot; whether to carry or abort a baby. 

So, when Asian women choose, for reasons that seem economically rational to them, to disproportionately abort their female babies, how exactly can any consistent modern feminist say this is wrong? The women is pregnant, she is choosing, and she is doing so for economic reasons. 

Since feminists will not speak out against abortions done for personal convenience, or extremely late in pregnancy (witness their support for partial birth abortion), they really have no leg to stand on when denouncing abortions of &quot;less valuable&quot; girls.

No red herrings about &quot;pro-life feminists,&quot; please - I know some exist, but they are NOT the founders of the feminist movement, the anointed followers of the founders, or those who speak for feminism as a whole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe feminists have painted themselves into a corner with this one. </p>
<p>The cornerstone of modern feminism (as opposed to the suffragettes and Susan B. Anthony) has been &#8220;a woman&#8217;s right to choose&#8221; whether to carry or abort a baby. </p>
<p>So, when Asian women choose, for reasons that seem economically rational to them, to disproportionately abort their female babies, how exactly can any consistent modern feminist say this is wrong? The women is pregnant, she is choosing, and she is doing so for economic reasons. </p>
<p>Since feminists will not speak out against abortions done for personal convenience, or extremely late in pregnancy (witness their support for partial birth abortion), they really have no leg to stand on when denouncing abortions of &#8220;less valuable&#8221; girls.</p>
<p>No red herrings about &#8220;pro-life feminists,&#8221; please &#8211; I know some exist, but they are NOT the founders of the feminist movement, the anointed followers of the founders, or those who speak for feminism as a whole.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Women &#8220;Choose&#8221; to Harm Women by Mary Pride</title>
		<link>http://thewayhome.org/2011/06/women-choose-to-harm-women/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Pride</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Carmen, I agree that it&#039;s terrible how Asian culture undervalues women. However, I disagree that &quot;if abortion were not an option for these women, then the girls would die another way.&quot; Making a behavior legal, inexpensive, and invisible will greatly change how many people do it. I seriously doubt that 163 million baby girls would have been murdered post-birth, or that if large numbers of them were being murdered post-birth that there would be NO outcry.

American feminism has spread worldwide via NGOs (non-governmental organizations) and official government organizations at both the country and global level (e.g., the UN). One of the main fruits of this has been the worldwide propagation of abortion as part of the family planning mix (with family planning/contraception/sterilization itself being promoted worldwide via US NGOs, GOs, and charities). Western &quot;aid&quot; intervention has relentlessly pushed a &quot;women should be in the workforce, children are a burden&quot; message. This, combined with the traditionally lower view of women in Asia, has often led to the logical (by their lights) and heartless choice to kill female babies in the womb.

In this case, American feminism, as it spread globally, threw fuel on the fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Carmen, I agree that it&#8217;s terrible how Asian culture undervalues women. However, I disagree that &#8220;if abortion were not an option for these women, then the girls would die another way.&#8221; Making a behavior legal, inexpensive, and invisible will greatly change how many people do it. I seriously doubt that 163 million baby girls would have been murdered post-birth, or that if large numbers of them were being murdered post-birth that there would be NO outcry.</p>
<p>American feminism has spread worldwide via NGOs (non-governmental organizations) and official government organizations at both the country and global level (e.g., the UN). One of the main fruits of this has been the worldwide propagation of abortion as part of the family planning mix (with family planning/contraception/sterilization itself being promoted worldwide via US NGOs, GOs, and charities). Western &#8220;aid&#8221; intervention has relentlessly pushed a &#8220;women should be in the workforce, children are a burden&#8221; message. This, combined with the traditionally lower view of women in Asia, has often led to the logical (by their lights) and heartless choice to kill female babies in the womb.</p>
<p>In this case, American feminism, as it spread globally, threw fuel on the fire.</p>
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